tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post2110917048726212080..comments2024-03-12T10:11:16.874-07:00Comments on Postcards from Purgatory: For Lizbeth, a fellow ULB. I've got your back.Gladyshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03379796403577898107noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-31481719220493660082013-11-17T21:50:03.258-08:002013-11-17T21:50:03.258-08:00EDIT: had to add more information add thought it’...EDIT: had to add more information add thought it’d be better to do it all at once also this is just inference so I might be wrong<br /><br />Blood was probably removed with either vinegar or lime both would have been plentiful, also a Hatchet is more likely not only for the use in splitting wood but also because that it is easier to get more force on a hatchet when swinging from the elbow using an axe would have been hard to swing dresses sown the way they were; also as TW said it’d be the easiest to swing indoors. <br />the large hit on the left eye socket of the father is probably the first hit it's brutal but clean after that his head would have lolled the rest were mostly bashing hits to the side he was probably already dead after the first. the woman was just in the way just needed to be brained and moved on. getting blood out of the carpet would have been difficult but the maid could have dealt with that and the sofa looks like leather so it'd have been less porous again Vinegar more likely cause Lime will damage fabrics and we don't want to replace them that costs money. <br />with the first hit on the mother the hatchet might have glanced off the skull. deflection happens often, I've heard of bullets bouncing off heads. her head also probably lolled because if you go off where she is it’d have been too difficult to get on the right side and straddling a corpse i imagine is hard in a thick dress she'd have had to been wearing standard outfit for the period or it would have aroused suspicion. dad was easy stationary target and no need to be quick. <br />clothes were probably burned that's what i'd do.I also doubt highly that they were dragged safest place would have been the only place to do it with no risk of being seen, your only witness aided you why do it elsewhere, especially if they were going to say someone else did it you can bet they planned that story. They probably cleaned it to look distraught, like a woman showering after a rape. It's counterproductive but people do odd things when distraught.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07770935993678926088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-64749380944638322502013-11-17T21:35:04.351-08:002013-11-17T21:35:04.351-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07770935993678926088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-75672429380264364322013-11-17T21:13:42.070-08:002013-11-17T21:13:42.070-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07770935993678926088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-49522071380101999132013-11-05T08:21:18.124-08:002013-11-05T08:21:18.124-08:00Thank you Jonsi. These kinds of posts are so fun ...Thank you Jonsi. These kinds of posts are so fun for me to research.Gladyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379796403577898107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-10631882724243235092013-11-01T07:10:24.864-07:002013-11-01T07:10:24.864-07:00No seriously. I mean it. Awesome.No seriously. I mean it. Awesome.Jonsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17517677634712242866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-27229838250963383262013-11-01T07:08:55.881-07:002013-11-01T07:08:55.881-07:00AWESOME post. I love love love it. I always though...AWESOME post. I love love love it. I always thought it interesting that "Lizzy Borden" got such a bad rep, but that no one ever seemed to talk about the details of the whole murder. You did a good job hypothesizing and filling in the gaps. Great read. Jonsihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17517677634712242866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-29468703526090512472013-10-31T18:26:40.707-07:002013-10-31T18:26:40.707-07:00I'm really stumped about how they managed that...I'm really stumped about how they managed that too! I realize these are old black and white pictures, but looking at the pattern of the rug beneath his head, there should be a big, black blob. And there isn't. Nor does there appear to be anything on the pillow beneath his head. Methinks he/they were killed elsewhere and posed...Look at her skull: With a knock like that to the side of the head, she should have fallen sideways. IMO, the ass-in-the-air positioning was a genius touch!<br />And with an axe, you need to have a substantial diameter to arc it when you're swinging it over-head. Side-ways? Not so much, but I've never cut or split wood sideways....<br />Yeah, hatchets in the house, axes outside. I think they were killed somewhere else.<br />Oh well, Happy Halloween-And again, great sleuthing and thanks!<br />TW Tundra Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12262066568878267648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-77250981279442744432013-10-31T08:14:41.559-07:002013-10-31T08:14:41.559-07:00yes! TW - that is exactly what I thought about th...yes! TW - that is exactly what I thought about the hatchet but forgot to include. A hatchet back then would have been as common as a spatula. Especially in a house with no heat/electricity. It would also have been much easier to hide and remove from the scene.<br /><br />I want to know how they did it with no blood splatters, smart girls...Gladyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379796403577898107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-63742733477001283102013-10-31T05:14:58.880-07:002013-10-31T05:14:58.880-07:00I totally buy this.I totally buy this.Besshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08211150594109190701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-7331993296837762752013-10-30T12:54:21.821-07:002013-10-30T12:54:21.821-07:00I've always thought Lizzie, sorry Lizbeth, had...I've always thought Lizzie, sorry Lizbeth, had been abused. <br /><br />The while no blood thing is really weird. But I guess they didn't have those csi tools that make invisible blood glow. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01785022492469960214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-35606686927970163652013-10-30T09:29:18.097-07:002013-10-30T09:29:18.097-07:00Love it! Thanks, Gladys!
I was also surprised by t...Love it! Thanks, Gladys!<br />I was also surprised by the lack of blood around the bodies from the crime scene photos as well; know how head wounds bleed like mo-fos? And no defensive wounds on either body-musta ambushed and wacked 'em good with the first blow of the hatchet. There should have been blood, tissue and splatter all over gawds creation...Definitely over-kill, a lot of channelled rage at both Perps. What other alternative would she or Emma have had? Go to the local cops?! Yeah, that'd (not in their lifetime) work...<br />Damn right it's cold there in winter-but I bet those fireplaces were always "set" when Andy was around. And hatchets are much more useful in the house to cut wood for kindling for wood cook stoves as well as fireplaces. I lived with wood stoves for years: The axe work was done outside (yeah, they do weigh a ton) but I kept a hatchet inside for kindling-sized pieces.<br />Yeess! Dedicated to all the ACONS/Abuse Survivors past and present: May their pain and sorrow be assuaged by all the info available now and set them free sooner rather than later. <br />More fine sleuthing by Gladys, truly a "Super Sleuth!" (Raises a huge insulated container of ice tea in a toast-clink!)<br />TW<br />Tundra Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12262066568878267648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-90025703674273854742013-10-30T06:24:40.530-07:002013-10-30T06:24:40.530-07:00Fun post! This is the kinda weird shit I research ...Fun post! This is the kinda weird shit I research for my ghost buster friends.mulderfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500535934417551223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-2237485023299339772013-10-29T20:39:07.337-07:002013-10-29T20:39:07.337-07:00Gladys, I so enjoy these lovely posts you do. An...Gladys, I so enjoy these lovely posts you do. And right in time for Halloween!jessiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399613921768190064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-75914599185721716782013-10-29T17:45:33.819-07:002013-10-29T17:45:33.819-07:00good on her!
Q's Sisgood on her! <br /><br />Q's SisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8679637238769603836.post-59092871447025503462013-10-29T15:41:12.189-07:002013-10-29T15:41:12.189-07:00Well done, Gladys. I can see it happening exactly ...Well done, Gladys. I can see it happening exactly this way. --LuLooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com